Comments on: The problem with Democrats http://blog.lj4a.com/2008/06/02/the-problem-with-democrats/ My personal blog to promote those ideals that our country was founded on. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:28:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Daniel Z. http://blog.lj4a.com/2008/06/02/the-problem-with-democrats/#comment-2377 Daniel Z. Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:36:38 +0000 http://blog.lj4a.com/2008/06/02/the-problem-with-democrats/#comment-2377 Well, I really wasn't trying to make any comment about the quality about the candidates. I find that both candidates are qualified and pretty much believe in the same thing. They just differ on implementation (which we both know would get changed by the time it got through congress anyway). I also don't charge all Democrats across the board. I know many Democrats who will be voting for either of the two candidates regardless of who wins. I guess I could have worded the post "the problem that the Democratic Party is having". On the issue of who does it more, I think the sides may be more even than you think. While the Hillary side may be more vocal about it, the Obama side doesn't need to speak out about it because they are currently in the lead. What reveals their level of participation in the wrong referendum is the sheer turnout for him in southern areas as opposed to other candidates who wouldn't get that high of a turnout. But I could be wrong. However, what concerns me is that it is happening on both sides and it is giving McCain a chance when there is absolutely no way he should be able to win this year. The number of voters who would not stay with a Democrat if the "other Democrat loses" is dissapointing (and very disturbing) regardless of who has more. But it just helps to prove the point that we have lost the focus on what this election needs to be about. Well, I really wasn’t trying to make any comment about the quality about the candidates. I find that both candidates are qualified and pretty much believe in the same thing. They just differ on implementation (which we both know would get changed by the time it got through congress anyway). I also don’t charge all Democrats across the board. I know many Democrats who will be voting for either of the two candidates regardless of who wins. I guess I could have worded the post “the problem that the Democratic Party is having”.

On the issue of who does it more, I think the sides may be more even than you think. While the Hillary side may be more vocal about it, the Obama side doesn’t need to speak out about it because they are currently in the lead. What reveals their level of participation in the wrong referendum is the sheer turnout for him in southern areas as opposed to other candidates who wouldn’t get that high of a turnout. But I could be wrong. However, what concerns me is that it is happening on both sides and it is giving McCain a chance when there is absolutely no way he should be able to win this year.

The number of voters who would not stay with a Democrat if the “other Democrat loses” is dissapointing (and very disturbing) regardless of who has more. But it just helps to prove the point that we have lost the focus on what this election needs to be about.

]]> By: Ian McGibboney http://blog.lj4a.com/2008/06/02/the-problem-with-democrats/#comment-2374 Ian McGibboney Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:53:45 +0000 http://blog.lj4a.com/2008/06/02/the-problem-with-democrats/#comment-2374 Agreed. Except that I think it's unfair to make that accusation across the board for the Democrats. If Obama's run was just about race, he would have long ago been relegated to the Jackson/Sharpton archive. Obama resonates with many people for a variety of reasons, of which (at least for myself and others I've spoken to) race is almost an afterthought. Hillary's stalwart support, on the other hand, seems largely predicated on the idea that it's a woman's turn to be president. With so many Hillary supporters claiming they'll vote for McCain rather than Obama, it's not much of a stretch to assume they'd vote for Condoleezza Rice if she were running. On the other hand, I can't picture an Obama voter going for Condi simply because she's black. I'm not denying there's a degree of what you're saying in both Democratic camps. But, at this point especially, it's much more on one side than the other. Agreed. Except that I think it’s unfair to make that accusation across the board for the Democrats. If Obama’s run was just about race, he would have long ago been relegated to the Jackson/Sharpton archive. Obama resonates with many people for a variety of reasons, of which (at least for myself and others I’ve spoken to) race is almost an afterthought. Hillary’s stalwart support, on the other hand, seems largely predicated on the idea that it’s a woman’s turn to be president. With so many Hillary supporters claiming they’ll vote for McCain rather than Obama, it’s not much of a stretch to assume they’d vote for Condoleezza Rice if she were running. On the other hand, I can’t picture an Obama voter going for Condi simply because she’s black.

I’m not denying there’s a degree of what you’re saying in both Democratic camps. But, at this point especially, it’s much more on one side than the other.

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