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ACLU vs Tangipahoa School Board, part 89,452,922

Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008

When I read the article title, Judge orders La. school district to stop Bible giveaways, I just knew it had to be Tangipahoa. Of course, they do not dissapoint. It seems that they supporting the passing out of Bibles. It seems that they are wrong, yet again.

This leads me to two sets of questions.

A) Would the Tangipahoa school board allow for Hebrew Bibles to be passed out? What about the Koran? Could a muslim group pass out the Koran to students? If the school had no “religious purpose” in distributing Christian bibles, you would think they would have no problem with other religious texts being passed out. I think we all know the answer to that question and it would be a resounding “no”. Why? Because it is obvious that the Tangipahoa School Board has the intent to try and push Christianity on their students.

But the more interesting question would have to be…

B) Isn’t it sad that the board in charge of helping children of Tangipahoa Parish learn has shown that they are absolutely incapable of learning for themselves? I mean seriously, how many times do they have to attempt to promote Christianity in their public schools before they realize that YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT!

Slidell to pay up

Thursday, April 17th, 2008

Damages were awarded in the Slidell lawsuit over the portrait of Jesus. In case you don’t remember…

The ACLU filed the lawsuit after court officials refused the organization’s request to remove the portrait and lettering underneath that says, “To know peace, obey these laws.” A week before Lemelle heard arguments in the case in September, court officials expanded the display to include other “notable law-givers,” replacing the Jesus portrait with a copy of the Constitution in the center position and moving the portrait to the end of the wall.

Lemelle said at the time that he likely would have granted a request by the ACLU to remove the portrait, as it clearly demonstrated a religious purpose and intent, violating the establishment clause of the Constitution and running afoul of Supreme Court rulings.

The Jeff Crouere show this morning had your typical conservatives that are an example of what is wrong with america. I only got a minute to respond there so I will continue here.

Some callers called in and tried to tie this with communism, arguing that the left wants to turn this into a communist country (some actually believe we are already there… go figure). Here is a newsflash for them. As a liberal I will say that Communism is a horrible form of government. COMMUNE-ism only works in a… wait for it… COMMUNE! There are many communes in Israel (Kibbutzim) and they work very well. They also work within a capitalistic society, selling their goods in the free market and sharing those goods with fellow members of the Kibbutz.

Other callers tried to claim that the laws of our land are based on the 10 commandments (one caller even claimed that all of the commandments are in our laws). This is completely false. Only 3 laws (of the thousands on the books) are found in the 10 commandments (don’t murder, don’t steal, don’t bear false witness). Those 3 laws are also part of many codes of laws over the years. I could easily say that our legal system is based on the code of Hammurabi because that code also contains those 3 laws.

Jeff even pushed the idea that these laws are an attack on our “Judeau-Christian” heritage. There was nothing “Judeau” about this portrait. I just love how some Christians try and use the term ”Judeau-Christian” in defending their pushing Christianity on others to try and “hide” what they are actually doing.

Which brings me to the point that I was trying to make on the radio. People argue that this is a violation of first amendment rights, which is false. The first amendment does not protect your ability to use government to promote your religious beliefs. In fact, the spirit of the establishment clause contradicts the claims of people who wrongly use the first amendment to justify their actions. And current enforcement of Constitutional law, and the 14th amendment, requires the states  and local governments to be under the same prohibitions as the federal government is when it comes to establishing religion.

And the 1st amendment also does not apply at work. I don’t have the right to say what I want or do what I want at work. If I have religious obligations that I must follow at work, I need to tell my boss before they hire me as to what those requirements are. So, since the first amendment does not apply to the workplace, it cannot be argued that the ruling is a violation of the 1st amendment rights of anybody. The bottom line is this, not only do you not have the right to use government as a tool to push your religious beliefs on others, you should be legally restricted from doing so. Thankfully the Constitution does restrict you from doing so, no matter how much these extremists want to bury their heads in the sand and tell you otherwise.

What is even worse is that the people who do these things, like erecting pictures of Jesus in government buildings, are not just using government to promote their religion. What they are really doing is using their God and their religion to promote themselves in their political careers. Using your religion to propel yourself in politics only works to tarnish your religion.

Finally, a person who entered that courtroom who was not a Christian and would see “To know peace, obey these laws” under a picture of Jesus might have a problem believing that he/she would get a fair trial because they are not following the laws of Jesus by being a member of another religion (or no religion at all).

So good for the ACLU. And to those people who believe that the ACLU only supports “liberals” and is “anti-Christian”, read this.

Today the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana filed a lawsuit on behalf of a lone protester who was denied his free expression rights by the City of Natchitoches. Edwin Crayton, a devout Christian, sought to stand in front of Wal-Mart in Natchitoches with a sign protesting Wal-Mart’s alleged position on gay marriage…

“The right to be heard on matters of religious and political significance is at the core of our constitutional system,” said Katie Schwartzmann, Staff Attorney for the ACLU of Louisiana. “The City of Natchitoches has effectively silenced Mr. Crayton on what for him is an important religious issue, and this type of government censorship cannot stand unchallenged.”  

So the ACLU stood up for the civil rights of an extremist right wing Christian to express his anti-gay message.

Sneaky sneaky fundies….

Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008

Ben Nevers, a Democrat, has proposed SB 561 , a bill that opens the door wide open for teaching creationism in the classroom and destroying the scientific process. Here are the words that will cause the problem.

“Proposed law prohibits the Louisiana Department of Education or any school official from prohibiting, censoring or suppressing writing, document, record, or other content of any material about biological evolution, the chemical origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.”

So… because of the wording of this bill, materials such as this will be forced into the classroom? It must, because it falls under “any material about biological evolution”. Would a teacher be able to present information that says “if you support human cloning you will burn in hell”?

The right wing kooks have placed dumbing down our society as their agenda. They want to eliminate scientific thought and want to replace it with faith and faith alone. And let me be clear, there is absolutely nothing wrong with faith in general. However, faith has no place in the science classroom. 

By proposing this measure, Nevers either proves that…

A) He is one of the right wing kooks

B) He was convinced by the right winged kooks that there is nothing wrong with questioning evolution in a science class (even if the evidence presented against evolution is not based in science, but on faith).

or

C) He has been pressured by the right wing kooks that he will lose support if he doesn’t give them what they want.

Either way, the bill is awful and the Senate should vote it down and not back down to these extremist right wingers.

h/t to Ryan at DailyKingfish (even though he got the bill number wrong).

ACLU vs. Tangipahoa pt. 1,675,492

Friday, February 29th, 2008

In what seems to be an ongoing struggle between those who feel government should be used as an arm to promote religion and those who stand up for those people who are not part of the “majority”, the ACLU is again pressing a lawsuit against the Tangipahoa School Board for another violation of the establishment clause.

See, it seems that Tangipahoa School Board does not care about those people who are not Christian. They have apparently only invited certain religious leaders to lead the prayer before meetings. Their lack of caring for non-Christians and (and what really seems like disdain for them) could be clearly seen in the WWL TV newscast at 6 where they had an interview with the attorney representing the school board. He was smug and arrogant to the point where you could clearly see the sentiment of those who support a twisting and bending of laws.

Here is a suggestion to Tangipahoa. Instead of trying to bend and twist your policies to try and get around the laws…. JUST FOLLOW THE LAWS! Have some respect for people of ALL FAITHS and not just your own. I think it is SAD and PATHETIC that people who are in charge of educating our children would set this horrid example of how to act like a human being and a responsible member of society.

You can see the video and watch the smug “thats the kind of churches we have in Tangipahoa Parish” comment.

False logic in religious survey

Tuesday, February 26th, 2008

Last night CBS news presented the results of a survey done showing that 84% of adults “claim a religious affiliation”. Beacuse of this, they claim that:

“In the developed world, this is really the most religious country,” said Fr. Thomas Williams, CBS News faith & religion analyst.

Why are they paying this man? Just because 84% of people claim to be of a certain faith, it does not make them “religious”. Merriam Webster defines “religious” as “scrupulously and conscientiously faithful”. I doubt that 84% of this country follows their religion of choice is a “scrupulous” and “conscientiously faithful” way. One would think (or at least hope) that an analyst on faith and religion would understand this fact.

I would argue that many people who claim to be part of a religion would also say that they do not follow it as well as they should. I would also argue that many people who claim to follow their religion in a scrupulous and faithful way are likely to be wrong. And yes, there are probably people who do claim to follow their faith and do so in a manner that is scrupulous and faithful, however to claim that number is anywhere close to 84% would be 100% wrong.
 

People who don’t understand the holiday season.

Wednesday, December 26th, 2007

I received an email the other day. It went as follows:   

I am mailing mine today and hope if you guys only send one card out it will go to this address.

Yes, Christmas cards. This is coming early  so that you can get ready to include an important address to your list.  Wanna have some fun this CHRISTMAS?   Send the ACLU a  CHRISTMAS CARD this year. As they are working so very hard to get rid of the CHRISTMAS part of this holiday,  we should all send them a nice CHRISTIAN card to brighten up their dark, sad little world. Make sure it says “Merry Christmas” on it.  Here’s the address, just don’t be rude or crude. (It’s not the Christian Way , you know.)  


 ACLU

125 Broad Street  18th Floor
 
 New York, NY 10004  


Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they wouldn’t know if any were regular mail containing contributions. So spend 41 cents and tell the ACLU to leave Christmas alone. Also tell them that there is no such thing as a “Holiday  Tree”. . . It’s always been called a CHRISTMAS TREE!   And pass this on to your email lists. We really want to communicate with the ACLU! They really DESERVE us!!  For those of you who aren’t aware of them, the ACLU, (the American Civil Liberties Union) is the one suing the U.S. Government to  take God, Christmas or anything Christian, away from.  They represent  the atheists and others in this war.   Help put CHRIST back in Christmas! 

My  response was:

The ACLU is not trying to eliminate Christmas. The ACLU is working to make sure that we have a government that is representitive of all people and not just “the majority”. Government should celebrate all or it should celebrate none. It is really that simple. Our “Pledge” states “with liberty and justice for all”. Not for some or for most, but for all.Is the ACLU trying to prevent you from erecting an X-mas tree on your own property? No.Is the ACLU trying to prevent you from celebrating X-mas with  your friends and families? No.The ACLU is just trying to prevent individuals from using government to promote their religion over other religions. Instead of being insulted when the ACLU fights to keep people from erecting religious symbols in government buildings, people should be insulted when politicians tarnish religion by using God for political gains.  And by the way, the ”Christmas Tree” was not always called a “Christmas Tree”. It did not start off as a symbol of Christianity. It is a pagan symbol adopted by the church in an attempt to convert more pagans into the fold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tree#Roots

And for those who falsely believe that the use of “X” is an attempt to “take Christ out of Christmas”:

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp

The holiday season is the season for giving and the season for sharing. It is the season for spending time with friends, family and loved ones and reflecting on the year that was and looking forward to the year that will be.Instead of coming up with schemes on how we can derail an organization that stands up for our civil liberties, we should instead be coming up with ways that we can celebrate the holiday season and share the gifts of prosperity that many of us do have with those who are less fortunate than us.

It is unfortunate that people have to take the holiday season and be so spiteful and angry when the season is supposed to be about happiness and giving. After getting that letter I went to the bank near my work to deposit some funds. They happened to have cookies and apple cider for their customers. I had some and I also wished the woman behind the table a happy holidays. She, in a very terse manner, wished me a Merry Christmas (as if I was supposed to wish her that instead). I have also heard other people say that they are going to make it a point to say “Merry Christmas” because the holiday season has become too politically correct. Now, is it really in the spirit of the season to tell someone something in a spiteful way? I don’t think so. It is a shame that the new grinches of the season seem to be those who don’t want to share their “season” with others.

Personally, I wish that everyone had a very happy holiday season and I wish everyone a happy and prosperous new year!